Gotta love it, Ashe. Both handsome, sexy, young outlaws, so sure they can stand up to anything, and "thump" "thump"....right in their sexy young pots. Where's that second outlaw's gun? Love the look on his face, and his hands clutching his pot. So fucking hot! He's thinking "I'm dead."
Love this...reminds me so much of my scenes of Tattoo Guy and Longhair taking it right in the navel...especially the guy on the right and how he clutches his skewered bulging gut. As he slumps to the floor, hanging from the bar, he is left staring down at the shaft jutting from his bellybutton and watching it quiver as his gut goes soft and quivers with his dying breaths. His buddy's hard cock strains as it presses against the bar as he hangs there, spurting his death-load all over his gut.
The kid on the right reminds me of Pizza, if he had had a beer belly back then. He was great when he grabbed the sides of his belly and arched his body after taking an arrow, bullet or knife in his bellybutton.
Yeah I can see that as Pizza. We shot a lot of scenes that ended with him leaning against the bed in a similar pose, with his arms up, and him hanging with his gut thrust out, displaying whatever weapon was protruding from his belly.
I just remembered...you may remember a sequence of scenes we did where Pizza and his buddy Goth Boy both got it with arrows simultaneously...one in the gut, the other in the dick, and they played out their death scenes together. Then reversed the hits and the second time Goth got it in the gut and Pizza got it in the dick. In both versions Pizza did a lot of that straining and pushing his gut out business, making the arrow sticking out of him quiver.
This also reminds me of an old Western (50s-60s) that I saw ages ago, where a young guy got shot (gunshot) in the shoulder and knocked back like this against a horse tie-up rail in front of a bar. As he hangs on the rail, he got another five slugs pumped right into his belly, which was thrust forward from the position he was hanging. He lurched and groaned orgasmically as each slug ripped through his guts. I found it very hot, because the shooter could easily have finished him with a quick heart shot, but chose instead to enjoy himself by drilling slugs slowly and deliberately, low into his victim's belly. One of my favorite shooting scene memories.
The scene wasn't shirtless, but the guy was wearing a white shirt so each bullet hit was highlighted with a juicy red squib. I suspect it might have been a Spaghetti Western...those were always a little on the sadistic side.
Wow! Sounds so hot, Derek! I would definitely love a scene like that, if the victim was a hottie. I highly suspect that it was a spaghetti western, as they weren't shy about shooting such scenes.....kind of like you, in fact. Hahaha.
It must've been from the late 60s to early 70s, because I remember telling my college roommate about it in the mid-70s. He was shirtless at the time, and I remember propping him against a chair or something to demonstrate the pose on him, then poked his bare belly to indicate the bullet impacts. He played along and thought it was cool. A fond memory.
My college roomate Michael and I were both film and theatre students, so I used any excuse to discuss this stuff with him because I loved his body and we would always sit around shirtless having these discussions...we were in Miami and it was always hot. We spent a lot of time discussing horror movie scenes, and action/violence/shootout scenes and special effects. Looking back, I realize now how much those discussions influenced the work I did 20 years later. I remember that particular discussion we were talking about how the style of shootings changed from decade to decade. In the 50s and early 60s you saw belly shots of all sorts all the time, in Westerns, peplum films, even TV shows. Somehow that shifted to almost entirely chest shots in the 70s, with the exceptions being Spaghetti Westerns and martial arts films. As an actor, Michael was more appreciative of belly and gut shots, because they give an actor more to do. Chest shots are too quick to do much acting, and Michael was something of a ham. I remember sitting with him watching the now-obscure Johnny Crawford all-Indian Western INDIAN PAINT which is basically Indian tribe teenage boys fighting each other with knives, arrows and lances, on TV. Probably 80% of the hits were gut shots, many on bare bellies, and we marveled at how many explicit (for the time) shots they got away with showing on TV. He was also a James Bond fan, and he loved the speargun battle in Thunderball where you see a lot of guys shot clean through the belly with spears. He also loved any scene where a guy shoved his gun in another guy's belly and pumped him in the guts point blank. For him it had nothing to do with eroticism, it was just a cool effect and an opportunity for fun acting. Before we graduated he made a student film for a class and he had me come in and help him stage a stabbing scene where a guy wearing only a towel gets it; Michael did have a little bit of a thing for soft-bellied guys getting stabbed in the guts, and I helped him make the props and set up the shots, to make it look really convincing that the blade was really sinking into the actor's bare gut, three times just under his navel. It was pretty effective, and I have copied that scene many times in my own video.
Hot stuff, Derek. It pays to be outgoing, doesn't it? I wish I had been more outgoing during my early years. One thing that stood out about Indian Paint (aside from seeing a grownup Johnny Crawford in a loincloth) was that the director had them show bare-chested Indians get arrowed in their bellies (they must have used strings, or something). I had never seen that before, and haven't seen it since. It was very hot! My Max loved the close-in gunshots to his bellybutton and they were very "hard" to do, for obvious reasons. He liked to cling to my shoulders and have me shoot him multiple times in his bellybutton. After I pumped all six slugs into him, he would fall to the floor at my feet, then writhe for awhile, as he clutched his navel. God, that was so hot!
Something else I remembered about Michael. As I said he was a huge James Bond fan and had all the novels memorized. I forget which book specifically this was in, but he pointed out to me a line that was great...a character had been given a half-dozen extra navels. Meaning they had 6 bullet holes in their guts around their bellybutton! I always loved clever language tricks like that...like when a character is described as being given a .44 calibre bellyache. That was one of Longhair's favorites.
Love it! I like reading old crime fiction stories, short stories and novels, and in one, the private eye claimed that he put two slugs into the navel of the bad boy he was hunting. Turned me on. I have never read anything like that before, or since. I love the image of a guy getting "six new navels". Hot! Love the "45 caliber bellyache", too. Such discussions get me so turned-on.
Big Red seemed to get off on that sort of talk too...he'd often talk about taking "a full 22 calibre load in the guts", meaning the gun had been emptied into him between his navel and his dick...he liked the idea of being drilled in the guts with multiple small-caliber bullets for a slow gut-death. Pizza Boy also liked talking about giving a guy a bellyful of lead, or pumping their guts full of lead. One of my favorites was big-bellied Scott, who used a lot of that kind of descriptiveness on himself and on me. He'd talk about getting "drilled in my navel", "pumped in the guts", etc. My favorite was a scene he described on me, where he had me backed against a wall. "Id ram my gun right into your guts, and pump a slug right through your guts. Then I'd shove the gun right into your navel, and pump a slug right through your navel. Then I'd stick the gun right into your belly, and pump a slug right through your stomach. Then I'd push the gun up under your left nipple, and pump a slug right through your tit into your lung. Then, as I'm about to let you fall...I'd pump a slug in your dick, right through your dickhead and up into your guts!" That one about killed me, especially since it's obvious that Scott was indicating that my dick would have been erect, pointing towards my belly. We never discussed that sort of thing but he was clearly indicating that he knew my cock would be hard at that point. Scott had a friend named Chris who was in some of my early movies and we spent some time talking ideas on the phone that I still have recordings of. He was real good at describing all sorts of ideas, but the one that blew me away was...he'd have Scott backed against a wall. "Now remember, Scott's got a bit of a gut" he said. He started off by burying his knife in Scott's navel, a hard belly-thrust that would knock the wind out of him. Then he'd pull the knife out, and stab him again in the guts, about 4 inches below his navel, and jerk the blade up about three inches, opening a slice in his gut-bulge. "Then I'd pull out, and come in with an up-thrust right in his dick, midway up the shaft. Then I'd jerk the blade up a bit, pulling his cock up until it gets hard. Then, as he starts to cum, I'd ram the knife in hard, pushing his dickhead into his guts, and jerking the knife up again and again so it's like he fucks himself in his own guts until he dies with his cock buried in his big gut, and all you see is the knife handle sticking out where his dick was." Chris was very outgoing, and I have some great videos of him with a spear in him, clutching it orgasmically and growling "right in my fucking guts" or "oh, my fucking dick!" Interestingly, he now works in Tennessee as an EMT!
I always got off on hearing them say "right in the belly (or gut)". Any belly, bellybutton, navel or gut(s) talk always got me aroused. Thanks for the memories.
Re: INDIAN PAINT I haven't watched it in a while, but I remember first seeing it in high school and it caused me to jerk off furiously! Not only did they shot plenty of bare-belly arrow shots, but there were two or three where they got shot in their low slung loincloths, which read as dick shots to me! So when it aired in Miami I made Michael watch it with me.
INDIAN PAINT is a very hard film to find. I finally found a torrent of it a couple years ago. The description of the torrent, I kid you not, was this: "What initially looks like a Disney-style story of an Indian boy and his horse takes a violent turn; lots of fun if watching near-naked teenage boys shoot each other in the guts with arrows is your idea of a good time"!
Speaking of teenage boys shot in the guts with arrows, Ashe's scene reminded me of something. Do you remember me telling the story of the kid I played the skewered belly-to-belly with the double-bladed knife scene with, where the kid was so turned on by it that he came in his pants? Well the pose of the guy on the right in Ashe's illustration reminded me of a scene I had shot as still photos of that guy being executed with an arrow through the navel. We posed him in an archway as if he was tied up with his arms in a similar position, and put an arrow through his bellybutton. He thrust his belly out as if resisting the arrow, then hangs dead. He had a great little belly that he configure in different ways by thrusting out or tightening up. He really loved pretending to get it in his bellybutton, whether we were playing knives, gunshots or spears. He would talk about what it would feel like to get his navel pierced, the weapon sinking into his guts, or getting blasted through his bellybutton and feeling his guts burn as the bullet ripped through them. And that time we played being skewered together he got so aroused that he wouldn't let me get off of his belly until he had cum in his pants. I suspect every time we got together and shot pictures like this he would go home and jerk off over it...I always took a few extras so he could take some with him. But this set with the arrow in his navel, and a scene we shot of him being shot in the guts (complete with bullet holes) were my favorites. He was definitely a "get it in the belly boy". Links: https://ibb.co/cWhgZy https://ibb.co/dfVeMd https://ibb.co/eCYG1d
The shooting scene with bullet holes on Steve (the arrow kid above) was his choice. I let him decide where to take it. So he put one in his gut below his navel, the second in his belly just above and slightly to one side of his bellybutton, and the finishing shot by his left tit into his heart. I will have to hunt those pix down. But he liked any scene where he could push his belly out in response to the hits.
Great stills, Derek! Hey, men just naturally go for the belly every time. At work, I keep one of those retractable knives in my drawer, and every time I show it to attractive guys, they push it right into their bellies (if not their bellybuttons) and groan as though they are stabbed there. Teenagers are even more prone to do that. Of course, a few didn't react at all, so I knew they were duds. Haha. Steve, to me, is a typical teenager. Would love to see those gun shot stills of him.
Here are the rest of the good stills I could find of him. Arrows, spears, and two different gunshot bits. Also one of my favorites, a machete rammed right through his guts below the navel. He especially liked getting it there...when we played knifing scenes his strongest reactions were always to upthrusts into his guts, and he would push his belly out to give me as big a target as possible! He was definitely the kind of kid who presented his belly to be stabbed or shot. I would love to hear your comments on these shots. https://ibb.co/dJEOXJ https://ibb.co/fm3NRd https://ibb.co/keVrKy https://ibb.co/fLPU6d https://ibb.co/dcDp6d https://ibb.co/nFvNsJ https://ibb.co/b7xfey https://ibb.co/myQVCJ https://ibb.co/dw3QCJ
Seventeen. But yes, he looked younger. He was growing fast, the machete one is the latest and you can see he looks older and taller than the previous ones.
Steve was actually older when I photographed him than Little Leo was in OVERKILL, But Steve had very juvenile features. I saw him again a few years later, and he had grown tall and skinny, and looked like Mick Jagger! It's the lips. I've known a lot of guys who had a little bit of a belly as teenagers, then outgrew it as they got taller.
I wasn't as turned on with Leo for the same reason, Derek. He was cute, but I tend to lean towards the older guys, personally. It's strange, really. My role play buddies were teenagers, but at the time, so was I, so it didn't matter as much to me.....plus they were older-looking and very masculine, rather than being "boyish". Max could have passed for twenty-one, easily....and the others looked like they were eighteen. I did, too, I suppose, though I'm not sure. I was carded until I was nearly thirty, so maybe not. LOL
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Gotta love it, Ashe. Both handsome, sexy, young outlaws, so sure they can stand up to anything, and "thump" "thump"....right in their sexy young pots. Where's that second outlaw's gun? Love the look on his face, and his hands clutching his pot. So fucking hot! He's thinking "I'm dead."
ReplyDeleteThanks so much, Dino! I actually forgot to draw in the second cowboy's gun, I might have to go back and edit that in, haha.
DeleteLove this...reminds me so much of my scenes of Tattoo Guy and Longhair taking it right in the navel...especially the guy on the right and how he clutches his skewered bulging gut. As he slumps to the floor, hanging from the bar, he is left staring down at the shaft jutting from his bellybutton and watching it quiver as his gut goes soft and quivers with his dying breaths. His buddy's hard cock strains as it presses against the bar as he hangs there, spurting his death-load all over his gut.
ReplyDeleteThe kid on the right reminds me of Pizza, if he had had a beer belly back then. He was great when he grabbed the sides of his belly and arched his body after taking an arrow, bullet or knife in his bellybutton.
DeleteYeah I can see that as Pizza. We shot a lot of scenes that ended with him leaning against the bed in a similar pose, with his arms up, and him hanging with his gut thrust out, displaying whatever weapon was protruding from his belly.
DeletePizza was expert at that stance, Derek. He apparently sensed that the wounded part of his body should always be out front. Such a sexy man.
DeleteI just remembered...you may remember a sequence of scenes we did where Pizza and his buddy Goth Boy both got it with arrows simultaneously...one in the gut, the other in the dick, and they played out their death scenes together. Then reversed the hits and the second time Goth got it in the gut and Pizza got it in the dick. In both versions Pizza did a lot of that straining and pushing his gut out business, making the arrow sticking out of him quiver.
DeleteYeah, that sexy kid knew how to play to the camera. He was a natural.
DeleteThis also reminds me of an old Western (50s-60s) that I saw ages ago, where a young guy got shot (gunshot) in the shoulder and knocked back like this against a horse tie-up rail in front of a bar. As he hangs on the rail, he got another five slugs pumped right into his belly, which was thrust forward from the position he was hanging. He lurched and groaned orgasmically as each slug ripped through his guts. I found it very hot, because the shooter could easily have finished him with a quick heart shot, but chose instead to enjoy himself by drilling slugs slowly and deliberately, low into his victim's belly. One of my favorite shooting scene memories.
ReplyDeleteThe scene wasn't shirtless, but the guy was wearing a white shirt so each bullet hit was highlighted with a juicy red squib. I suspect it might have been a Spaghetti Western...those were always a little on the sadistic side.
DeleteWow! Sounds so hot, Derek! I would definitely love a scene like that, if the victim was a hottie. I highly suspect that it was a spaghetti western, as they weren't shy about shooting such scenes.....kind of like you, in fact. Hahaha.
DeleteThanks, Derek, it sounds like a great scene!
DeleteThanks Ashe. Catch my following posts about discussing the scene with my college roommate.
DeleteIt must've been from the late 60s to early 70s, because I remember telling my college roommate about it in the mid-70s. He was shirtless at the time, and I remember propping him against a chair or something to demonstrate the pose on him, then poked his bare belly to indicate the bullet impacts. He played along and thought it was cool. A fond memory.
ReplyDeleteMy college roomate Michael and I were both film and theatre students, so I used any excuse to discuss this stuff with him because I loved his body and we would always sit around shirtless having these discussions...we were in Miami and it was always hot. We spent a lot of time discussing horror movie scenes, and action/violence/shootout scenes and special effects. Looking back, I realize now how much those discussions influenced the work I did 20 years later. I remember that particular discussion we were talking about how the style of shootings changed from decade to decade. In the 50s and early 60s you saw belly shots of all sorts all the time, in Westerns, peplum films, even TV shows. Somehow that shifted to almost entirely chest shots in the 70s, with the exceptions being Spaghetti Westerns and martial arts films. As an actor, Michael was more appreciative of belly and gut shots, because they give an actor more to do. Chest shots are too quick to do much acting, and Michael was something of a ham. I remember sitting with him watching the now-obscure Johnny Crawford all-Indian Western INDIAN PAINT which is basically Indian tribe teenage boys fighting each other with knives, arrows and lances, on TV. Probably 80% of the hits were gut shots, many on bare bellies, and we marveled at how many explicit (for the time) shots they got away with showing on TV. He was also a James Bond fan, and he loved the speargun battle in Thunderball where you see a lot of guys shot clean through the belly with spears. He also loved any scene where a guy shoved his gun in another guy's belly and pumped him in the guts point blank. For him it had nothing to do with eroticism, it was just a cool effect and an opportunity for fun acting. Before we graduated he made a student film for a class and he had me come in and help him stage a stabbing scene where a guy wearing only a towel gets it; Michael did have a little bit of a thing for soft-bellied guys getting stabbed in the guts, and I helped him make the props and set up the shots, to make it look really convincing that the blade was really sinking into the actor's bare gut, three times just under his navel. It was pretty effective, and I have copied that scene many times in my own video.
DeleteHot stuff, Derek. It pays to be outgoing, doesn't it? I wish I had been more outgoing during my early years. One thing that stood out about Indian Paint (aside from seeing a grownup Johnny Crawford in a loincloth) was that the director had them show bare-chested Indians get arrowed in their bellies (they must have used strings, or something). I had never seen that before, and haven't seen it since. It was very hot! My Max loved the close-in gunshots to his bellybutton and they were very "hard" to do, for obvious reasons. He liked to cling to my shoulders and have me shoot him multiple times in his bellybutton. After I pumped all six slugs into him, he would fall to the floor at my feet, then writhe for awhile, as he clutched his navel. God, that was so hot!
DeleteSomething else I remembered about Michael. As I said he was a huge James Bond fan and had all the novels memorized. I forget which book specifically this was in, but he pointed out to me a line that was great...a character had been given a half-dozen extra navels. Meaning they had 6 bullet holes in their guts around their bellybutton! I always loved clever language tricks like that...like when a character is described as being given a .44 calibre bellyache. That was one of Longhair's favorites.
DeleteLove it! I like reading old crime fiction stories, short stories and novels, and in one, the private eye claimed that he put two slugs into the navel of the bad boy he was hunting. Turned me on. I have never read anything like that before, or since. I love the image of a guy getting "six new navels". Hot! Love the "45 caliber bellyache", too. Such discussions get me so turned-on.
DeleteBig Red seemed to get off on that sort of talk too...he'd often talk about taking "a full 22 calibre load in the guts", meaning the gun had been emptied into him between his navel and his dick...he liked the idea of being drilled in the guts with multiple small-caliber bullets for a slow gut-death.
DeletePizza Boy also liked talking about giving a guy a bellyful of lead, or pumping their guts full of lead.
One of my favorites was big-bellied Scott, who used a lot of that kind of descriptiveness on himself and on me. He'd talk about getting "drilled in my navel", "pumped in the guts", etc. My favorite was a scene he described on me, where he had me backed against a wall. "Id ram my gun right into your guts, and pump a slug right through your guts. Then I'd shove the gun right into your navel, and pump a slug right through your navel. Then I'd stick the gun right into your belly, and pump a slug right through your stomach. Then I'd push the gun up under your left nipple, and pump a slug right through your tit into your lung. Then, as I'm about to let you fall...I'd pump a slug in your dick, right through your dickhead and up into your guts!" That one about killed me, especially since it's obvious that Scott was indicating that my dick would have been erect, pointing towards my belly. We never discussed that sort of thing but he was clearly indicating that he knew my cock would be hard at that point.
Scott had a friend named Chris who was in some of my early movies and we spent some time talking ideas on the phone that I still have recordings of. He was real good at describing all sorts of ideas, but the one that blew me away was...he'd have Scott backed against a wall. "Now remember, Scott's got a bit of a gut" he said. He started off by burying his knife in Scott's navel, a hard belly-thrust that would knock the wind out of him. Then he'd pull the knife out, and stab him again in the guts, about 4 inches below his navel, and jerk the blade up about three inches, opening a slice in his gut-bulge. "Then I'd pull out, and come in with an up-thrust right in his dick, midway up the shaft. Then I'd jerk the blade up a bit, pulling his cock up until it gets hard. Then, as he starts to cum, I'd ram the knife in hard, pushing his dickhead into his guts, and jerking the knife up again and again so it's like he fucks himself in his own guts until he dies with his cock buried in his big gut, and all you see is the knife handle sticking out where his dick was."
Chris was very outgoing, and I have some great videos of him with a spear in him, clutching it orgasmically and growling "right in my fucking guts" or "oh, my fucking dick!" Interestingly, he now works in Tennessee as an EMT!
I always got off on hearing them say "right in the belly (or gut)". Any belly, bellybutton, navel or gut(s) talk always got me aroused. Thanks for the memories.
DeleteRe: INDIAN PAINT I haven't watched it in a while, but I remember first seeing it in high school and it caused me to jerk off furiously! Not only did they shot plenty of bare-belly arrow shots, but there were two or three where they got shot in their low slung loincloths, which read as dick shots to me! So when it aired in Miami I made Michael watch it with me.
ReplyDeleteINDIAN PAINT is a very hard film to find. I finally found a torrent of it a couple years ago. The description of the torrent, I kid you not, was this:
Delete"What initially looks like a Disney-style story of an Indian boy and his horse takes a violent turn; lots of fun if watching near-naked teenage boys shoot each other in the guts with arrows is your idea of a good time"!
Speaking of teenage boys shot in the guts with arrows, Ashe's scene reminded me of something. Do you remember me telling the story of the kid I played the skewered belly-to-belly with the double-bladed knife scene with, where the kid was so turned on by it that he came in his pants? Well the pose of the guy on the right in Ashe's illustration reminded me of a scene I had shot as still photos of that guy being executed with an arrow through the navel. We posed him in an archway as if he was tied up with his arms in a similar position, and put an arrow through his bellybutton. He thrust his belly out as if resisting the arrow, then hangs dead. He had a great little belly that he configure in different ways by thrusting out or tightening up. He really loved pretending to get it in his bellybutton, whether we were playing knives, gunshots or spears. He would talk about what it would feel like to get his navel pierced, the weapon sinking into his guts, or getting blasted through his bellybutton and feeling his guts burn as the bullet ripped through them. And that time we played being skewered together he got so aroused that he wouldn't let me get off of his belly until he had cum in his pants. I suspect every time we got together and shot pictures like this he would go home and jerk off over it...I always took a few extras so he could take some with him. But this set with the arrow in his navel, and a scene we shot of him being shot in the guts (complete with bullet holes) were my favorites. He was definitely a "get it in the belly boy". Links:
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The shooting scene with bullet holes on Steve (the arrow kid above) was his choice. I let him decide where to take it. So he put one in his gut below his navel, the second in his belly just above and slightly to one side of his bellybutton, and the finishing shot by his left tit into his heart. I will have to hunt those pix down. But he liked any scene where he could push his belly out in response to the hits.
DeleteGreat stills, Derek! Hey, men just naturally go for the belly every time. At work, I keep one of those retractable knives in my drawer, and every time I show it to attractive guys, they push it right into their bellies (if not their bellybuttons) and groan as though they are stabbed there. Teenagers are even more prone to do that. Of course, a few didn't react at all, so I knew they were duds. Haha. Steve, to me, is a typical teenager. Would love to see those gun shot stills of him.
DeleteHere are the rest of the good stills I could find of him. Arrows, spears, and two different gunshot bits. Also one of my favorites, a machete rammed right through his guts below the navel. He especially liked getting it there...when we played knifing scenes his strongest reactions were always to upthrusts into his guts, and he would push his belly out to give me as big a target as possible! He was definitely the kind of kid who presented his belly to be stabbed or shot. I would love to hear your comments on these shots.
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Kid's a natural belly kill! ;-)
DeleteGlad you liked him, Bob!
DeleteA bit too young, for my taste, Derek....or at least he looks it.
ReplyDeleteSeventeen. But yes, he looked younger. He was growing fast, the machete one is the latest and you can see he looks older and taller than the previous ones.
ReplyDeleteFunny. The machete still is my favourite, and now I know why. Hehe. I really love big knives in a belly, so that one appeals to me a lot.
DeleteSteve was actually older when I photographed him than Little Leo was in OVERKILL, But Steve had very juvenile features. I saw him again a few years later, and he had grown tall and skinny, and looked like Mick Jagger! It's the lips. I've known a lot of guys who had a little bit of a belly as teenagers, then outgrew it as they got taller.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't as turned on with Leo for the same reason, Derek. He was cute, but I tend to lean towards the older guys, personally. It's strange, really. My role play buddies were teenagers, but at the time, so was I, so it didn't matter as much to me.....plus they were older-looking and very masculine, rather than being "boyish". Max could have passed for twenty-one, easily....and the others looked like they were eighteen. I did, too, I suppose, though I'm not sure. I was carded until I was nearly thirty, so maybe not. LOL
DeleteTo be honest I liked Leo solely for his chest and especially his six-pack, which was developed beyond his years. His belly was very camera-friendly.
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ReplyDeleteI posted the image on my own blog
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Check it out if you get a chance. Your art inspires me to do more with my own, thanks!
I like the bodies slumped..one draped over the railing.. a fav pose.
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