Excellent, Ashe! The fit soldiers finally wised-up and took care of themselves by sacrificing their fat mates. Hehe. The ball-bellied soldiers figured they might get it in the belly, as they were the perfect target. Reminds me of John Wayne's Green Beret and The Hard Way The Only Way, although they weren't pot-bellied. Hot!
Thanks, Dino! I got the trap idea from one of Gary J's kill compilation videos, though I can't recall which one exactly? As usual, I wanted to do a version where guys with big, firm ball bellies take it in the guts instead! They noy only got the short end of the stick... they got the sharp end as well!
Yeah, the American title of Gary's video is The Hard Way The Only Way, Ashe. Hot! One thing about bamboo canes is that they don't care if a man has a big belly or a rock-hard, well-developed one.....same result. Uhhhhhhhaaaahhhh. All the way to the fuckin' hilt. It was just by sheer luck that the robs found their way into the men's belly holes.
You and a bunch of your big-bellied buddies strolling through the jungle... and then THWAKK! Each of you get a spear punched right into your bellybuttons, and you die slumped over and groaning all together... love it!
Four bellies take it at once! I fantasize myself as the first guy, grunting in surprise as that bamboo shaft punches up and into my hairy bare belly, skewering my navel and driving up thorough my bulging guts. I shudder and groan as my whole body weight drives me down the shaft, leaving me hanging by my heaving guts. The agony deep in my belly sets my big cock throbbing and pulsing, filling my pants with a last hot load which sprays over my lower gut; I never expected to cum the last time while standing up! - Derek (I'm posting from a back-up computer)
Thanks, Derek! I could definitely see you as the first guy in the lineup. Who wouldn't want to go out with a bunch of hot and hairy, big-bellied soldiers?
That's me about 25 years ago. I never had a really big belly in the 90s, but when my weight would go up a bit both Big Red and Army Guy, my favorite play partners then, would really go after my gut. They liked getting me better when my belly was a bigger, vulnerable target! This also reminded me a bit of a scene I had filmed with Red that I had forgotten filming until I found the tape recently. We had a setup where a sharpened tree branch was jutting straight out at waist level. Red grabbed my shoulders and would pushed back onto it, until the sharpened point burst out through my slightly bulging belly. Suddenly I grabbed him and pulled him towards me, driving the point right into his gut! As he grunted in surprise, I pulled him forward again, until were were impaled together, belly-to-belly, and we hung on the branch, standing up. I slumped slightly to the side, and he leaned back, his hard belly straining against mine, his guts quivering against me. Made a great ending death pose.
Yes... the sharpened tree branch thing is a fave of mine. A bud of mine and I years ago used to go to a secluded copse of stubted trees along the beach. One of the trees had a protruding snapped off branch bellybutton-high. We were just in our skimpy swimsuits... me with my big belly stuck out hard... we’d play being trapped, ambushed and impaled on the branch.
If you've seen my vids over the years you know that I've got quite a nice patch of woods, with lots of low-hanging branches perfect for draping one's self over in death, as well as plenty of jagged ones to be impaled on. I've had plenty of fun experiences with my buds there over the years. Sometime I walk through those woods and recount which death scenes we did on which trees! Of course the best memories are those simultaneous scenes where we'd be shot or stabbed together, ending up draped over each other, preferably belly-to-belly. Playing shirtless death scenes in the woods was especially arousing, as the scenery made the fantasies seem all the more real, getting scratched up a bit on tree bark. Good times.
Yeah, Derek. You should have filmed a few "impaled on a sharp tree limb" scenes with your guys. One gets it back-to-front and then the second front-to-back, impaled together through the bellybuttons....belly-to-belly. Whew!
Yeah, hot, huh, Gutsy? By the way, my yahoo addie is closed down. Pissed me off, but what can I do? If you need to reach me at another addie it's nbellybutton1221@gmail.com. I don't like the site (too slow to load), but it's better than nothing.
Dino, I DID film such a scene with Big Red, I described it above (August 27, 10:43 am). It was many years before I was posting my work, and it was done as more of a visual test and play than anything, rather than a finished scene for posting. We shot it indoors with the "tree branch" simply jutting out from the corner wall, and we were just wearing Jockey briefs. The test element was mainly just finding the right camera angle to make it look like the branch had penetrated both of us. I had even made a little short piece about 3 inches long to fit between our bellies for an insert close-up shot about halfway through the scene, before I pulled him all the way to me, belly-to-belly...it was coming out about my navel and piercing him more in the guts, below his navel, as he was taller. Then in the long shot the piece was removed as I pulled him against me; I pushed my belly out, and he leaned back, so we ended up dying pressed against each other from about navel level to our dicks.
Bob Gutsy, that's largely why I pretty much retired after making OVERKILL...filming outdoors is much more difficult, but I managed to get dozens of different death scenes that I had always wanted to do into it, with a great cast of many pleasing body types getting shot, stabbed, speared, arrowed, etc. I felt I'd pretty much done it all, in a wonderful jungle setting.
This whole discussion of outdoors death scenes brought back an amazing memory for me...my very first playing of death scenes for sexual gratification! When I was either 13 or 14, after school I used to hike up to the woods behind our house (we had quite a few acres of hilly farmland in Pennsylvania) where I was sure to be alone. There was an ancient apple orchard there, with wonderfully gnarly old trees. I'd find a nice arrow-sized stick, and climb up into a certain branch, take off my shirt, and wedge the end of the stick as deep as I could into my belly, either right in my navel or just below it in my guts, holding it in place with the tension between my belt and the top of my jeans. Having been "shot right in the belly", I would play out the moment, then "die" draped over the branch, with my cock pressed hard against the branch. Clutching my belly, I would grind my hard dick against the branch (my thick jeans protecting it from injury), moaning and groaning, until I inevitably felt a hot spray splatter onto my belly, and I would sag against the branch exhausted and "dead". I must've done this 100 times, and it pretty much locked in as the basis for my sexual fantasies my whole life.
Hot scenario, Derek! Reminds me of the scene in your classic film from years ago in which you were sitting in a tree and get a spear thrown into your bellybutton. Hot stuff!
Dino, yes, that was back when I was almost skinny and actually had a flat belly! That part was actually written for a guy I had done musicals with who was a dancer and had a spectacularly beautiful little body...but at the last minute he got cast in a touring show and I had nobody else, so I took that part. Still would like to have seen him with a spear through his navel, but I guess I did OK with it. Going back to the dying in a tree thing, you can see from my story above where that got started for me. And I know I am not alone, because many of my guys in discussions have come up with scenarios that involved the target getting impaled or shot or whatever in a tree, ending up death-posed dramatically. I think most boys play and climb around in trees when they are kids, and I am sure many "died" similar deaths while playing war or cowboys and Indians. My guys always spent as much time describing final death poses as they did thinking up the hows and wheres of where to shoot, stab or spear someone. Scenes involving trees were always high on the list; getting skewered to a tree with a spear in the guts and left hanging on it were tops. Getting arrowed or shot and left hanging from a tree branch was also popular.
We really tried to take advantage of the trees in OVERKILL. My favorites were both the Greek brothers and The Kid getting belly-shot and ending up draped belly-down on tree trunks or branches. The Swede speared through the cock and guts and hanging from a tree. Vlad shot in the navel with an arrow and falling from a branch. Army Guy riddled in the guts against a tree, and cock-shot with an arrow and draped over a fallen palm tree. The Kid sprawled over a fallen tree trunk and gut-stabbed with a sword. The Blond Greek speared through the navel to a tree.
Getting back to Ashe's scenario, there's definitely something very hot about several guys all getting it the same way at the same time and dying together. I remember we discussed the ridiculous 80s action film MANKILLERS (super low budget junk movie with Farrah-haired female models as elite commandos against drug guys) where there's one shot in which three guys get pumped in their bellies at the same time...it's very quick but very hot. I only had a few opportunities to film such scenes. A favorite was a scene I did where Longhair and another guy, in shirtless warrior garb, come out from behind a tree and get arrows in their guts at the same time. They slide down the tree trunk and die simultaneously, making eye contact and even reaching for each other as they realize they are dead. Very hot. There's also a scene we did indoors where Pizza Boy and Goth Boy both are arrowed, one in the gut and one in the dick, and they die together. And of course there were also a few scenes, both with me and Tattoo Guy and me and Pizza, where we both got riddled in our bellies and died together. There's something very hot about multiple guys dying the same way together. Ashe's scene works so well because of that, and because the guys all realize they've taken it the same way.
Yeah, Overkill is a classic, Derek, whether shot indoors or outdoors.....and it did introduce us to one of my favorite of your actors, Smooth Guy. He was such a sexy man. In regards to two guys getting it and dying together....well, that's as good as it gets, particularly when they plug or stab one another and die together. Too hot for words. Those old cheapie movies do sometimes have a cool scene or two, but invariably they edit them way too short to be of much use for the fetish. Fortunately, you understood that and it's what makes your videos so damn hot.
Loved that movie.. a real "guilty pleasure" ;-) That scene you mention, Derek, is still etched in my memory. Too quick as you say. Three mullet-haired dudes pop put of their hut only to get it right across the bellies..one if I remember in a loose rag-top shirt that left a bit of his belly visible. The multiple kill is hot. There's scenes in another Grade B action flick THE HARD WAY in which numbers of the hired soldier types are killed like in Ashe's scenario: sharpened tree stakes propelling them forward then another right across their bellies.
Bob, yeah, those three guys are dressed like extras for FOOTLOOSE or FLASHDANCE! But it's them getting it right in their bellies simultaneously that's hot! Gonna have to track down THE HARD WAY.
There's also a quick scene in that movie (which was always cut on its TV airings on USA UP ALL NIGHT) where one of the women distracts a guy by offering herself to him, then plants a knife right through his hard cock into his low guts.
I remember that show UP ALL NIGHT. Right, they had this one and other Grade B flicks. A great scene. That woman gives it to that turned on dude real good ;-) In the other scene from THE HARD WAY a whole line of soldiers are slammed forwards right on to a row of sharpened stakes that impale them all in the belly simultaneously and they hang there with those good agony facial expressions and moans.
I skimmed through THE HARD WAY and found the big scene where many guy get it with the spring-loaded bamboo bars, that was pretty good, but I couldn't find the second one. A really horrible movie though. What point is there in having Miles O'Keefe if he keeps his shirt on? Most of it was way too boring scenes of them being chased through the jungle by helicopters. Made MANKILLERS look good.
I think that was the only scene like that. I agree about the helicopter stuff and the absence of shirtlessness. There was one scene towRds the end where O’Keefe does machine gun a bunch oh shirtless and belly shirted dudes as theybrush out if their tent. Not explicitly belly shots but one can imagine 😏
I couldn't find that, but I had enough. The beauty of Ashe's work is that he takes a concept like the bamboo spike scene, but makes it look the way it should look! I give him all the credit in the world for that. Looking at his art, you really feel those spikes plunging into your guts!
I've always thought it was ridiculous that mainstream filmmakers shied away from any graphics in such films. I understand why it happened before the seventies, as they had censorship boards who tried to "protect us" from such violence, but after the success of such films as Bonnie And Clyde and The Wild Bunch, you'd think they would have awakened to the fact that men wanted to see blood and wounds. No, they just couldn't do it. By the eighties, slasher films were all the rage, but still they did quick cutaways from the action, which was so damned frustrating! The one thing that most of us remember about Reservoir Dogs is the long, drawn-out, bloody, realistic gut shot death of Mr. Orange. I don't care for gore very much, but blood and bullet wounds are a must.
The movie industry is self-censoring, as is broadcast television. More than any other factor, cable TV channels such as HBO have loosened up how much blood you can get away with, because they get away with a lot, and now everyone else tries to keep up. I'm often amazed at how many bloody squib shots are in the average action TV show these days. HBO really pushed the envelope with shows like SPARTACUS, which has so much blood even I found it unwatchable. It was like slow motion blood porn, which I just found gross. Still, they did have some amazing effects: there was a shot I remember of a guy getting a shortsword in the guts on bare skin clearly between his navel and his belt. In close-up. Great shot, good special effect, very hot, but spoiled for me by all the other spraying blood in the episode. In my own work, I rarely bothered much with blood, because it slowed down production time with cleanup after each take, and didn't add that much to the scenes. I was always more interested in the effect of a blade sinking in, and the performance. But I do like bullet holes in a bare belly!
Yes, that scenario of a bare bellied man getting "plugged" in the belly is a great, and even better if "somehow"one slug goues into his "natural" hole..;-)
In discussions with my actors about ideas for how they'd like to give or take it, belly shots are inevitably a favorite because it is understood that getting it in the guts is a slow, painful, and most importantly, dramatic death. They give the actor much more to do than a chest or headshot, which from an acting point are pretty boring. That being said, while ech of them had different ideas on how and where to get it in the belly (or lower in the guts), every single guy I have ever discussed this with has at some point suggested getting it or giving it right in the navel. As many have pointed out, if you are shirtless, it's a natural bulls-eye. There's also the symbolic element of the navel being the source of life, so it is deliciously ironic to have your life ended there as well. And for most guys the navel is an erogenous zone, so there's a homoerotic element there as well. And most guys, from the time they are kids, when playing getting shot will just naturally grab their belly at the navel. Most of my guys liked the idea of nailing their adversary "right in the bellybutton", both for the visual factor as well as knowing it is a painful shot. But more than a few were adamant about wanting to take it there as well. Some seemed to get off on even just describing it on themselves. Babyface: "I think that'd be a pretty cool shot right there, getting it right in the bellybutton. I'd feel the cold steel of the muzzle of the gun getting pressed right into my navel; I'd feel all my stomach muscles tighten up, then feel the blast as the bullet punches right through my bellybutton, ripping right through my guts as my belly expands a bit, and my stomach muscles tighten up again, then give out." Pizza Boy: "I'd feel the hot slugs punch into my abs as he shoots me in the belly three times, in my six-pack. I'd stagger back against the wall, and he'd pump two more slugs into my lower guts midway between my navel and my dick. As I grab my guts, he'd push me back against the wall and punch the gun hard right into my bellybutton, knocking the wind out of me. He'd smile, aim the gun downwards slightly, and pump a slug right through my navel into my lower guts, then angle the gun up, and pump a second bullet through my navel into my upper belly, then level the gun out and pump a third slug straight through my bellybutton, through my guts and into my spine, and I'd drop to the floor dying, clutching my guts and belly." Big Scott: "Well, he'd ram his bayonet right into my guts just under my bellybutton, forcing me back against the wall. And as I'd start to slump over, he'd fire the gun, right into my navel, shooting me clean through the belly; I'd feel the hot slug rip through my bellybutton and clear through my guts and out my back." Obviously these guys had put some thought into it.
Well put, Derek. Yeah, I've always considered the bellybutton to be the center of the target on a man. It's where life begins at birth, so it makes sense that a man should get it there. Like you said, in mock shootouts with buddies, we all grabbed our belly over the navel when we got shot. It was natural. I never even liked it when a man got shot and grabbed his stomach (too close to his chest or heart). It had to be over or near the navel. Cock shots, like those near the chest, didn't interest me, either.....too far south of the target. Hot discussion!
As we know from Arenafighter, everybody has their own preferences. Some guys really prefer chest shots. Me personally, I I like a hit in the guts below the navel about equally as much as perfect navel hit...sometimes it just depends on the scene and the weapon and the target guy. Cock shots by themselves are just a novelty...most of my guys who suggested one thought of it as a way to humiliate the victim by punishing their manhood. But you will remember in most scenes I filmed using one, there was still a finish shot in the belly! And invariably my guys always suggested (or played) a cockshot as if the dick was being impaled upright against the lower belly. So it was still ultimately a gut shot.
I like to think I'd be the man in the middle with the red armband. As we all get stabbed in our big bellies, I look down at the spike jammed into my belly and put my hand on my buddies shoulder to steady myself. As I look down at my hairy body i notice the pain is giving me a boner making my huge cock strain against my pants. I saw my buddy had two spikes in his big belly and was working on getting his hard dick out of his zipper. I did the same and just as I died we both erupted with cum, my hard cock spewing jizz everywhere. As my body jerked around on the spike my belly opens and my guts spill onto the ground. Big bellied men die the best. And we all just proved it. This is such a hot one Ashe! Keep em coming!
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Excellent, Ashe! The fit soldiers finally wised-up and took care of themselves by sacrificing their fat mates. Hehe. The ball-bellied soldiers figured they might get it in the belly, as they were the perfect target. Reminds me of John Wayne's Green Beret and The Hard Way The Only Way, although they weren't pot-bellied. Hot!
ReplyDeleteThanks, Dino! I got the trap idea from one of Gary J's kill compilation videos, though I can't recall which one exactly? As usual, I wanted to do a version where guys with big, firm ball bellies take it in the guts instead! They noy only got the short end of the stick... they got the sharp end as well!
DeleteYeah, the American title of Gary's video is The Hard Way The Only Way, Ashe. Hot! One thing about bamboo canes is that they don't care if a man has a big belly or a rock-hard, well-developed one.....same result. Uhhhhhhhaaaahhhh. All the way to the fuckin' hilt. It was just by sheer luck that the robs found their way into the men's belly holes.
DeleteAs I look at the scenes again, my fav is that first guy: smooth faced, big bellied, just lets out a grunt.. and croaks.
DeleteHave to say the designer of the classic sharpened stake/ tree branch trap had perfect design: got each one right in the belly button!
ReplyDeleteYou and a bunch of your big-bellied buddies strolling through the jungle... and then THWAKK! Each of you get a spear punched right into your bellybuttons, and you die slumped over and groaning all together... love it!
DeleteAhhh man... that hurts so baddd... goood. ��
DeleteThe guy in the middle should have said what he was thinking, "I got me a bellyful!" Awesome scene!
ReplyDeleteThanks, Corey! His mind was definitely racing in his final moments, and you can bet he was horny as hell, haha!
DeleteFour bellies take it at once! I fantasize myself as the first guy, grunting in surprise as that bamboo shaft punches up and into my hairy bare belly, skewering my navel and driving up thorough my bulging guts. I shudder and groan as my whole body weight drives me down the shaft, leaving me hanging by my heaving guts. The agony deep in my belly sets my big cock throbbing and pulsing, filling my pants with a last hot load which sprays over my lower gut; I never expected to cum the last time while standing up!
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Thanks, Derek! I could definitely see you as the first guy in the lineup. Who wouldn't want to go out with a bunch of hot and hairy, big-bellied soldiers?
DeleteYeah., the first guy... clean-shaven face., big bellied... laconic. . ��
DeleteThat's me about 25 years ago. I never had a really big belly in the 90s, but when my weight would go up a bit both Big Red and Army Guy, my favorite play partners then, would really go after my gut. They liked getting me better when my belly was a bigger, vulnerable target!
DeleteThis also reminded me a bit of a scene I had filmed with Red that I had forgotten filming until I found the tape recently. We had a setup where a sharpened tree branch was jutting straight out at waist level. Red grabbed my shoulders and would pushed back onto it, until the sharpened point burst out through my slightly bulging belly. Suddenly I grabbed him and pulled him towards me, driving the point right into his gut! As he grunted in surprise, I pulled him forward again, until were were impaled together, belly-to-belly, and we hung on the branch, standing up. I slumped slightly to the side, and he leaned back, his hard belly straining against mine, his guts quivering against me. Made a great ending death pose.
Yes... the sharpened tree branch thing is a fave of mine. A bud of mine and I years ago used to go to a secluded copse of stubted trees along the beach. One of the trees had a protruding snapped off branch bellybutton-high. We were just in our skimpy swimsuits... me with my big belly stuck out hard... we’d play being trapped, ambushed and impaled on the branch.
DeleteIf you've seen my vids over the years you know that I've got quite a nice patch of woods, with lots of low-hanging branches perfect for draping one's self over in death, as well as plenty of jagged ones to be impaled on. I've had plenty of fun experiences with my buds there over the years. Sometime I walk through those woods and recount which death scenes we did on which trees! Of course the best memories are those simultaneous scenes where we'd be shot or stabbed together, ending up draped over each other, preferably belly-to-belly. Playing shirtless death scenes in the woods was especially arousing, as the scenery made the fantasies seem all the more real, getting scratched up a bit on tree bark. Good times.
DeleteFunny.. just the other day I was at the same beach and found that patch of trees. You’re right, the setting made it so exciting.
DeleteYeah, Derek. You should have filmed a few "impaled on a sharp tree limb" scenes with your guys. One gets it back-to-front and then the second front-to-back, impaled together through the bellybuttons....belly-to-belly. Whew!
DeleteFantastic visual, Dino . 👍
DeleteYeah, hot, huh, Gutsy? By the way, my yahoo addie is closed down. Pissed me off, but what can I do? If you need to reach me at another addie it's nbellybutton1221@gmail.com. I don't like the site (too slow to load), but it's better than nothing.
DeleteDino, I DID film such a scene with Big Red, I described it above (August 27, 10:43 am). It was many years before I was posting my work, and it was done as more of a visual test and play than anything, rather than a finished scene for posting. We shot it indoors with the "tree branch" simply jutting out from the corner wall, and we were just wearing Jockey briefs. The test element was mainly just finding the right camera angle to make it look like the branch had penetrated both of us. I had even made a little short piece about 3 inches long to fit between our bellies for an insert close-up shot about halfway through the scene, before I pulled him all the way to me, belly-to-belly...it was coming out about my navel and piercing him more in the guts, below his navel, as he was taller. Then in the long shot the piece was removed as I pulled him against me; I pushed my belly out, and he leaned back, so we ended up dying pressed against each other from about navel level to our dicks.
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DeleteWonderful how we love forests and trees ;-)
DeleteBob Gutsy, that's largely why I pretty much retired after making OVERKILL...filming outdoors is much more difficult, but I managed to get dozens of different death scenes that I had always wanted to do into it, with a great cast of many pleasing body types getting shot, stabbed, speared, arrowed, etc. I felt I'd pretty much done it all, in a wonderful jungle setting.
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ReplyDeleteThe hanging there, slumped, pinned thru the guts thru the navel..arms dangling...a hot death pose.
ReplyDeleteThis whole discussion of outdoors death scenes brought back an amazing memory for me...my very first playing of death scenes for sexual gratification! When I was either 13 or 14, after school I used to hike up to the woods behind our house (we had quite a few acres of hilly farmland in Pennsylvania) where I was sure to be alone. There was an ancient apple orchard there, with wonderfully gnarly old trees. I'd find a nice arrow-sized stick, and climb up into a certain branch, take off my shirt, and wedge the end of the stick as deep as I could into my belly, either right in my navel or just below it in my guts, holding it in place with the tension between my belt and the top of my jeans. Having been "shot right in the belly", I would play out the moment, then "die" draped over the branch, with my cock pressed hard against the branch. Clutching my belly, I would grind my hard dick against the branch (my thick jeans protecting it from injury), moaning and groaning, until I inevitably felt a hot spray splatter onto my belly, and I would sag against the branch exhausted and "dead". I must've done this 100 times, and it pretty much locked in as the basis for my sexual fantasies my whole life.
ReplyDeleteSeparated at birth ? Lol.
DeleteVery similar to my history.
That “ shot in the belly” thing was a fav play scenario.
Hot scenario, Derek! Reminds me of the scene in your classic film from years ago in which you were sitting in a tree and get a spear thrown into your bellybutton. Hot stuff!
DeleteDino, yes, that was back when I was almost skinny and actually had a flat belly! That part was actually written for a guy I had done musicals with who was a dancer and had a spectacularly beautiful little body...but at the last minute he got cast in a touring show and I had nobody else, so I took that part. Still would like to have seen him with a spear through his navel, but I guess I did OK with it.
ReplyDeleteGoing back to the dying in a tree thing, you can see from my story above where that got started for me. And I know I am not alone, because many of my guys in discussions have come up with scenarios that involved the target getting impaled or shot or whatever in a tree, ending up death-posed dramatically. I think most boys play and climb around in trees when they are kids, and I am sure many "died" similar deaths while playing war or cowboys and Indians. My guys always spent as much time describing final death poses as they did thinking up the hows and wheres of where to shoot, stab or spear someone. Scenes involving trees were always high on the list; getting skewered to a tree with a spear in the guts and left hanging on it were tops. Getting arrowed or shot and left hanging from a tree branch was also popular.
No, you were great in the tree scene, Derek. I always loved seeing a guy get it in a tree, grabbing his belly and falling. So hot!
DeleteWe really tried to take advantage of the trees in OVERKILL. My favorites were both the Greek brothers and The Kid getting belly-shot and ending up draped belly-down on tree trunks or branches. The Swede speared through the cock and guts and hanging from a tree. Vlad shot in the navel with an arrow and falling from a branch. Army Guy riddled in the guts against a tree, and cock-shot with an arrow and draped over a fallen palm tree. The Kid sprawled over a fallen tree trunk and gut-stabbed with a sword. The Blond Greek speared through the navel to a tree.
ReplyDeleteGetting back to Ashe's scenario, there's definitely something very hot about several guys all getting it the same way at the same time and dying together. I remember we discussed the ridiculous 80s action film MANKILLERS (super low budget junk movie with Farrah-haired female models as elite commandos against drug guys) where there's one shot in which three guys get pumped in their bellies at the same time...it's very quick but very hot.
ReplyDeleteI only had a few opportunities to film such scenes. A favorite was a scene I did where Longhair and another guy, in shirtless warrior garb, come out from behind a tree and get arrows in their guts at the same time. They slide down the tree trunk and die simultaneously, making eye contact and even reaching for each other as they realize they are dead. Very hot.
There's also a scene we did indoors where Pizza Boy and Goth Boy both are arrowed, one in the gut and one in the dick, and they die together. And of course there were also a few scenes, both with me and Tattoo Guy and me and Pizza, where we both got riddled in our bellies and died together.
There's something very hot about multiple guys dying the same way together. Ashe's scene works so well because of that, and because the guys all realize they've taken it the same way.
Yeah, Overkill is a classic, Derek, whether shot indoors or outdoors.....and it did introduce us to one of my favorite of your actors, Smooth Guy. He was such a sexy man. In regards to two guys getting it and dying together....well, that's as good as it gets, particularly when they plug or stab one another and die together. Too hot for words. Those old cheapie movies do sometimes have a cool scene or two, but invariably they edit them way too short to be of much use for the fetish. Fortunately, you understood that and it's what makes your videos so damn hot.
DeleteLoved that movie.. a real "guilty pleasure" ;-)
DeleteThat scene you mention, Derek, is still etched in my memory. Too quick as you say. Three mullet-haired dudes pop put of their hut only to get it right across the bellies..one if I remember in a loose rag-top shirt that left a bit of his belly visible.
The multiple kill is hot. There's scenes in another Grade B action flick THE HARD WAY in which numbers of the hired soldier types are killed like in Ashe's scenario: sharpened tree stakes propelling them forward then another right across their bellies.
Bob, yeah, those three guys are dressed like extras for FOOTLOOSE or FLASHDANCE! But it's them getting it right in their bellies simultaneously that's hot!
ReplyDeleteGonna have to track down THE HARD WAY.
There's also a quick scene in that movie (which was always cut on its TV airings on USA UP ALL NIGHT) where one of the women distracts a guy by offering herself to him, then plants a knife right through his hard cock into his low guts.
ReplyDeleteI remember that show UP ALL NIGHT. Right, they had this one and other Grade B flicks. A great scene. That woman gives it to that turned on dude real good ;-)
DeleteIn the other scene from THE HARD WAY a whole line of soldiers are slammed forwards right on to a row of sharpened stakes that impale them all in the belly simultaneously and they hang there with those good agony facial expressions and moans.
I skimmed through THE HARD WAY and found the big scene where many guy get it with the spring-loaded bamboo bars, that was pretty good, but I couldn't find the second one. A really horrible movie though. What point is there in having Miles O'Keefe if he keeps his shirt on? Most of it was way too boring scenes of them being chased through the jungle by helicopters. Made MANKILLERS look good.
DeleteI think that was the only scene like that. I agree about the helicopter stuff and the absence of shirtlessness.
DeleteThere was one scene towRds the end where O’Keefe does machine gun a bunch oh shirtless and belly shirted dudes as theybrush out if their tent. Not explicitly belly shots but one can imagine 😏
I couldn't find that, but I had enough.
ReplyDeleteThe beauty of Ashe's work is that he takes a concept like the bamboo spike scene, but makes it look the way it should look! I give him all the credit in the world for that. Looking at his art, you really feel those spikes plunging into your guts!
Absolutely. He totally draws you into it; and the spikes into one’s gut 😏
DeleteI've always thought it was ridiculous that mainstream filmmakers shied away from any graphics in such films. I understand why it happened before the seventies, as they had censorship boards who tried to "protect us" from such violence, but after the success of such films as Bonnie And Clyde and The Wild Bunch, you'd think they would have awakened to the fact that men wanted to see blood and wounds. No, they just couldn't do it. By the eighties, slasher films were all the rage, but still they did quick cutaways from the action, which was so damned frustrating! The one thing that most of us remember about Reservoir Dogs is the long, drawn-out, bloody, realistic gut shot death of Mr. Orange. I don't care for gore very much, but blood and bullet wounds are a must.
DeleteThe movie industry is self-censoring, as is broadcast television. More than any other factor, cable TV channels such as HBO have loosened up how much blood you can get away with, because they get away with a lot, and now everyone else tries to keep up. I'm often amazed at how many bloody squib shots are in the average action TV show these days. HBO really pushed the envelope with shows like SPARTACUS, which has so much blood even I found it unwatchable. It was like slow motion blood porn, which I just found gross. Still, they did have some amazing effects: there was a shot I remember of a guy getting a shortsword in the guts on bare skin clearly between his navel and his belt. In close-up. Great shot, good special effect, very hot, but spoiled for me by all the other spraying blood in the episode.
DeleteIn my own work, I rarely bothered much with blood, because it slowed down production time with cleanup after each take, and didn't add that much to the scenes. I was always more interested in the effect of a blade sinking in, and the performance. But I do like bullet holes in a bare belly!
Yes, that scenario of a bare bellied man getting "plugged" in the belly is a great, and even better if "somehow"one slug goues into his "natural" hole..;-)
DeleteIn discussions with my actors about ideas for how they'd like to give or take it, belly shots are inevitably a favorite because it is understood that getting it in the guts is a slow, painful, and most importantly, dramatic death. They give the actor much more to do than a chest or headshot, which from an acting point are pretty boring.
DeleteThat being said, while ech of them had different ideas on how and where to get it in the belly (or lower in the guts), every single guy I have ever discussed this with has at some point suggested getting it or giving it right in the navel. As many have pointed out, if you are shirtless, it's a natural bulls-eye. There's also the symbolic element of the navel being the source of life, so it is deliciously ironic to have your life ended there as well. And for most guys the navel is an erogenous zone, so there's a homoerotic element there as well. And most guys, from the time they are kids, when playing getting shot will just naturally grab their belly at the navel. Most of my guys liked the idea of nailing their adversary "right in the bellybutton", both for the visual factor as well as knowing it is a painful shot. But more than a few were adamant about wanting to take it there as well. Some seemed to get off on even just describing it on themselves. Babyface: "I think that'd be a pretty cool shot right there, getting it right in the bellybutton. I'd feel the cold steel of the muzzle of the gun getting pressed right into my navel; I'd feel all my stomach muscles tighten up, then feel the blast as the bullet punches right through my bellybutton, ripping right through my guts as my belly expands a bit, and my stomach muscles tighten up again, then give out."
Pizza Boy: "I'd feel the hot slugs punch into my abs as he shoots me in the belly three times, in my six-pack. I'd stagger back against the wall, and he'd pump two more slugs into my lower guts midway between my navel and my dick. As I grab my guts, he'd push me back against the wall and punch the gun hard right into my bellybutton, knocking the wind out of me. He'd smile, aim the gun downwards slightly, and pump a slug right through my navel into my lower guts, then angle the gun up, and pump a second bullet through my navel into my upper belly, then level the gun out and pump a third slug straight through my bellybutton, through my guts and into my spine, and I'd drop to the floor dying, clutching my guts and belly."
Big Scott: "Well, he'd ram his bayonet right into my guts just under my bellybutton, forcing me back against the wall. And as I'd start to slump over, he'd fire the gun, right into my navel, shooting me clean through the belly; I'd feel the hot slug rip through my bellybutton and clear through my guts and out my back."
Obviously these guys had put some thought into it.
Well put, Derek. Yeah, I've always considered the bellybutton to be the center of the target on a man. It's where life begins at birth, so it makes sense that a man should get it there. Like you said, in mock shootouts with buddies, we all grabbed our belly over the navel when we got shot. It was natural. I never even liked it when a man got shot and grabbed his stomach (too close to his chest or heart). It had to be over or near the navel. Cock shots, like those near the chest, didn't interest me, either.....too far south of the target. Hot discussion!
DeleteDefinitely! Gettin' it in the bellybutton rounds out the "circle of life"..hehe. Babyface sure had a great way to go out!
DeleteAs we know from Arenafighter, everybody has their own preferences. Some guys really prefer chest shots. Me personally, I I like a hit in the guts below the navel about equally as much as perfect navel hit...sometimes it just depends on the scene and the weapon and the target guy. Cock shots by themselves are just a novelty...most of my guys who suggested one thought of it as a way to humiliate the victim by punishing their manhood. But you will remember in most scenes I filmed using one, there was still a finish shot in the belly! And invariably my guys always suggested (or played) a cockshot as if the dick was being impaled upright against the lower belly. So it was still ultimately a gut shot.
ReplyDeleteThis whole discussion is giving me a huge boner!
ReplyDeleteMe too! I'm so glad there's other guys that are into the erotic masculinity of belly stabs.
DeleteI like to think I'd be the man in the middle with the red armband. As we all get stabbed in our big bellies, I look down at the spike jammed into my belly and put my hand on my buddies shoulder to steady myself. As I look down at my hairy body i notice the pain is giving me a boner making my huge cock strain against my pants. I saw my buddy had two spikes in his big belly and was working on getting his hard dick out of his zipper. I did the same and just as I died we both erupted with cum, my hard cock spewing jizz everywhere. As my body jerked around on the spike my belly opens and my guts spill onto the ground. Big bellied men die the best. And we all just proved it. This is such a hot one Ashe! Keep em coming!
ReplyDelete“ Big bellied men die the best...” love it !
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